User talk:SPLTWikiSysop

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I keep thinking that many a chapter needs a section ( or perhaps it should be on the chapter's discussion page) where it is described/commented on the relation between chapters in different books.

Might be a section called Comments or Notes. Any other suggested section name or should it be on the discussion page for each chapter?

For instance Alone Together chapter 8 has "Jennlynn," Jon piped up. "Can I ask just how in the hell you wound up working in a whorehouse?" while in Magic Carpet 22 it comes out "Jennlynn," Jon piped up. "Can I ask just how in the hell you wound up working in a cathouse?"

Whorehouse vs. cathouse - accidental on the part of Wes or deliberate given the different perspectives of whose story it is?

I'm sure there are plenty of other things that people have found. Is the Sam the engineer in Alone Together chapter 8 who seems an ordinary employee the same as Sam Trott?

My thoughts (kilobytemangler) - one section per story, with links from chapter pages as appropriate.

Others may think otherwise; now is the time to contribute your thoughts! After all, this is a wiki!

Don't know how that one happened. I thought I copied and pasted it, but maybe an editor got his hands on it ;-)

And yes, same Sam, although not important

-- Wes

Put this note up on Wes' Forum-

I'm quite delighted to see how much information is now available on the Spearfish Lake Tales Wiki!

One thing that I've noticed is that we aren't referencing the source of information in Wes' books that we have collected for a character or location, etc. This follows the Wikipedia convention that it should contain nothing that can't be found somewhere else on the Internet.

Under the page for Jason Bailey I've put one reference as a potential format model.

Comments, suggested alternative formats are welcomed - either in this forum or on a Talk page on SPLTWiki. --SPLTWikiSysop 02:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

In the example you give you've used ^{[http://www.spearfishlaketales.com/cf/cf22.htm CF22]} However, where I have put references I've been using <sup>[[Canyon Fires Chapter 22|CF22]]<sup>, that is, instead of linking to the chapter ob Wes's site, I've linked to the chapter entry in this Wiki. I think Dang Fool has been doing the same.. I plead guilty to not putting in references when I started, though I am putting more in, though It does mean that a lot of the pages will have to be gone over to identify where links & references need to be made. --steve_h 13:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd really prefer to use Wikipedia style referencing, but I can't get #if to work in templates. One shortcoming with the method I use is should a reference need repeating on a page, there's no easy ibid. I think I'll go ahead and make some template though.

I've really tried to include refs. I don't know why I didn't when I last updated Jason. Dang Fool 13:59, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Hmm- Interesting points! I had just thought of direct to the chapter references but wiki chapter references (where there people have been putting the direct link at the top of each wiki chapter page) are a reasonable alternative. The people who are doing the work should decide - which hasn't been me for characters, locations, etc.! Please update the SPLT style page with whatever you agree to. Thanks --SPLTWikiSysop 16:04, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

QUERY >>> Not sure where to put a general point/ question, here seems as good as any (and yes I have read the guide), but is there a way to put a 'Captcha' device on the account creation system as while it is more work in the long run to do that it may stop the spammers. Also is there a way you would like to be informed when I notice these annoying individuals? (I didnt put anything on the users discussion page as I guessed that would mean another page you had to delete?) --Mallory 23:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

CAPTCHAs don't really help as the spammer is a real person- the CAPTCHA is only to defeat robotic user creation!

Here is a good a place as any to leave me a note. I usually sign in to update the main page M-W_F after Wes loads a new chapter. I'm a little late tonight since I was on a plane returning from the Caribbean to the cold NE US!

Thanks! --SPLTWikiSysop 02:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

EDIT - So the spammers are getting worse... Suggestion - is it possible to disable all account creation for a month or so (in the hope they go away)/ or at least have moderated account creation i.e you have to approve them. Would this help, or would it instead create more hassle for you? (trying to be proactive...) Afraid I have no magic bullet...--Mallory 01:06, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

A SOLUTION or partial solution seems to be available - I think I can set new user login to require email confirmation which should at least give a handle on the source. Perhaps I can even moderate - i.e., require new logins to be be approved. Am checking into both in the next couple of days.--SPLTWikiSysop 02:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

What would be most useful would be to put new users on moderation - i.e. any edits need to be approved. --Kilobytemangler 22:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Or should we require moderator approval before a new user can sign up? --Kilobytemangler 23:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Which is what I'd really like if I can figure out how to do it! Or at worst a delay before a new user can post. --SPLTWikiSysop 23:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid you missed one Kilobytemangler - The Phentermine one still exists I'm afraid and needs deleting. I was going to post a link but it kills this page :-(--Mallory 00:22, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Got it - thanks. --Kilobytemangler 01:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Characters

Why can't I get Square One (I added Danny as a character) to show up in the Characters Story list? --Kilobytemangler 02:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

After some hunting around, I think I figured it out! On the Characters page, only the first part of the alphabetic listings appear for both the listing of subcategories and characters -through 'M'! The rest of the alphabet's subcategories and characters appear on the next page which you get to by clicking on 'next 200'! Please confirm that you see what I see. thanks --SPLTWikiSysop 02:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed; is there any hack that would get them all on the first page? --Kilobytemangler 21:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't mind having Chapters added to the sidebar, but you dropped Characters, which I think is important. Can you put it back in? --Dang Fool 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

UGH! Mistake! Fixed!--SPLTWikiSysop 15:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Jim (GCR). In doing RR38, I disovered that he does indeed have a last name - Jim Griffin. I made a redirect page for that name; should it be the other way around? --Kilobytemangler 01:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Personal opinion only, but I would have thought Jim (GCR) should redirect to Jim Griffin rather than the other way round as the site seems to be going for the full name where possible.--Mallory 23:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

I would say it should go to Griffin. Incidentally, Mallory, on the two you just put up -- Dan's last name is Plemmons, and Jerry's last name is Palmer. This does not get revealed until a later book, but I suppose we can put up with this mild a spoiler for the sake of this issue not coming up again. -- Wes

Chapters

This doesn't work! Need to have a two level structure, with the top being by book and the lower levels by book showing the individual chapters.

(imho) --Kilobytemangler 03:25, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it is very useful either since it essentially duplicates the links that there are for each book on the book's page. However I saw that was done so that I just added the navigation. Those who have / are doing the work on each chapter should decide. --SPLTWikiSysop 13:24, 11 February 2010 (UTC)